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Betrayal at Krondor artdump 2 by Kaytara Betrayal at Krondor artdump 2 by Kaytara
I've been waiting my whole life to get good enough at drawing to be able to depict my favouritest characters of all time. I'm not about to be put off now by petty things like "sanity" and "moderation". >D
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Chnoutichta Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011
I really love the dynamic you have between the two characters... you just woke up the fan girl in me !
oh and THANK YOU SO MUCH for giving me a face for Gorath. cos as i was reading the books, i had a very difficult time picturing him... and you managed to make him hot ! and so stylish ! thank you !
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Kaytara Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hehe, glad to hear it. Gorath totally deserves fangirling over, and I normally dislike beards. You should try playing the game, though - the Betrayal plot as well as Gorath and Owyn are entirely Neal Hallford's brainchildren, not Feist's, and the novel does lose something in the adaptation. Also, you should totally look at the Mocker's Guild fangroup for more fanart of the characters (including Gorath [link] stuff [link] ). :D
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brthieme Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Just stumbled across this while reminiscing (read: Googling) about Midkemia, Betrayal at Krondor, and all those books I loved to read when I was younger... I'm glad to see Feist's world hasn't vanished =) Your drawings have brought back a lot of great memories playing BaK, thanks!
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Kaytara Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome. ^^ While you're reminiscing, be sure to check out the fanclub, there's a lot of great fanart there too. :)
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Aroihkin Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2010   Digital Artist
Wow, these are really awesomely done! :D
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Kaytara Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! ^^ A bit iffy on the anatomy though, yeah, I know. T_T
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ItIsItOrNotIsIt Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2010
Здорово! Великолепие карандашных набросков!

Правда мне казалось Горатх несколько крупнее был...
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Kaytara Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Спасибо. ^^

Крупнее, это точно, да и на голову выше большинства людишек. Но у меня с разными типами тел еще не сильно хорошо получается. Что, в прочем, просто дает дополнительную причину продолжать стараться. XD

Вот если бы кто-то кроме меня еще уделял ему нужное художественное внимание...
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ItIsItOrNotIsIt Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2010
Ну вы сами можете видеть откуда у меня руки растут =))
Так что вы по прежнему главный энтузиаст ^_^
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Arinen Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2010  Professional General Artist
Owyn! I had such a crush on him :XD:
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Kaytara Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hehe. You know, I was about seven years old when I first watched my dad play the game, and that awesome ponytail.... which is to say, me too. XD
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Arinen Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2010  Professional General Artist
Yeah, I was maybe 11 or 12 when Dad introduced it to me, and I loved it so much he decided to tell me there were books :XD: I had a bit of a fangasm ^^;

Owyn = :love:
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Kaytara Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They're BOTH awesome, though. And complete opposites to each other. And friends. Which is awesome. ^^
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Arinen Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2010  Professional General Artist
Exactly :D

Man, Gorath made me cry when I read the book, too. He was such a good guy deep down :D
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Kaytara Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*nod nod* A true hero. And with backbone, go figure. Lots of tragedy in his life, and never a complaint.

...Trust me, you don't want me to chew your ear off about what an amazing character he is.

I was seven when my dad finished the game. Seven. My experience with emotional rollercoasters and tragic stories till that point was limited to "The Three Bears" and "Little Red Riding Hood". I was hysterical.

Still makes me cry crocodile tears whenever I reread the book, too.
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DevotedArdanien Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011
I am the same way. I always tell people that Gorath and I are "involved" for the same reasons. Not that I am crazy or anything but like you said, Gorath is such an amazing character and so well written in one book that one cannot help but have an emotional attachment.

And yes, I still cry at the end, too. Of all the characters that Feist ever created, Gorath was the one that deserved a happy ending.
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Kaytara Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yay!

Rant coming.

Disclaimer: Feist. Didn't. Create. Gorath. All of the Betrayal OC's as well as the plot are the creation of Neal Hallford (which makes it kind of ironic that Feist forbids fanfics, but I digress). If anything, I kind of resent Feist for how he adapted it - for one thing, one of the strongest points of the story are the dynamics between Gorath and Owyn, and Feist butchered Owyn by making him some kind of clumsy comic relief character. But particularly the Returning, as it was done in the book, made zero sense and was practically character assassination - Gorath's already sacrificed everything and then some for the off chance of preventing his people from screwing themselves over by starting another war, what in the world could possess him to accept Returning and thus burn all bridges to ever helping the moredhel ever again? Even the book acknowledges how one of Gorath's appeals is his strong sense and certainty of purpose. His purpose is Saving His People. Returning and resigning himself to a lifetime of... uhh... gardening or something in Elvandar is just not compatible with that without serious characterisation changes, which didn't happen.

Feist has a problem with the eledhel. He's essentially made them a race of Mary Sues living in a perfect Utopia, who are all uniformly good, beautiful, skilled, who have been using their power for good, and are the true elves, the alleged default of how elves should be. Anyone who doesn't think they're amazing is immediately convinced otherwise when they get to see Elvandar (Gorath in the book as well as the taredhel brothers from the more recent books). They've been in nearly every book in the cycle, and there's still zero fleshing out about how they live and precisely how they achieve these things. Though one would expect at least some people to have a legitimately low opinion of them due to ideological disagreements (say, because they're pacifistic to the point of utter passivity, because their society seems stagnant, because they're practically holed up in Elvandar, which has bad security implications, etc.), but nobody ever does. Instead, we get treated to description after description of how pretty Elvandar is whenever a new character sees it.

The bottom line is, they're Mary Sues, and act as Mary Sues do - by distorting the characterisation of everyone around them. Gorath is the one moredhel who, one would expect, would never join the eledhel because he has a firmly established allegiance to the moredhel for good or ill and is too proactive and practical to sit tight in Elvandar doing nothing, but all that is ignored for the opportunity of yet another character going all teary-eyed and amazed when they see Elvandar.

I have a pet theory. We know that the difference between moredhel and eledhel is in spirituality only - but while any moredhel could become an eledhel, the reverse simply does not happen, despite logic saying that eledhel should produce bad apples too, if they're actually the same race. We know that Elvandar is a creation of the elves, the Spellweavers - as Feist puts it, if the elves moved to Crydee, sooner or later it would become Elvandar. We know that the Spellweavers were able to manipulate Tomas during his Valheru identity crisis, keeping certain personality traits in dominance and suppressing others - sound familiar? We know that the Returning happens to moredhel solely through the external factor of "The Call", more or less independently of the moredhel's surroundings and decisions - in other words, the moredhel is changed even when they have zero natural reason to change. We also know that the moredhel already think that the Returning is a result of the elf queen bewitching their people into suddenly changing sides.

My pet theory can be summed up in one word: Brainwashing. The magic of Elvandar keeps the eledhel uniformly Lawful Good while chipping away at and converting the occasional moredhel. Brainwashing explains a lot of the inconsistencies and character derailments in one fell swoop.

That's why I prefer the game's version of Gorath's Returning - I mean, he actually pulls a sword on the queen at first, doesn't he? Before deciding to bow down and swear fealty, instead. I'd still prefer if the Returning nonsense didn't happen to him at all - he deserves better - but the game's version at least acknowledges how he is instinctively and initially very strongly against the idea.

The thing is, Gorath certainly does deserve a happy ending, but he's the type whose happy ending would involve his people pretty much doing a 180, establishing more neutral relations with humans while somehow getting enough of their lands in the Kingdom back to support themselves and reduce the amount of in-fighting over resources. Gorath would never be happy with chilling out in Elvandar and ignoring the rest of the world, and thinking otherwise is a disservice to the character.

Which is why I'm kind of glad that he died, as horrible as it sounds. Feist can't do complex psychological arcs, he's clearly uninterested in developing the moredhel as a nation (as shown by how NOTHING HAS CHANGED ABOUT THEM in the next few centuries - it's as if Gorath never existed, grr), so he would in no way be able to handle giving Gorath's story a satisfying conclusion without further butchering him.

...I did say it was going to be a rant. XD
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Arinen Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010  Professional General Artist
So true :XD: and you don't have to tell me how wonderful Gorath is - I already know :love:

Oh, wow. Yeah, as I said, Dad didn't even introduce it to me till I was 10 or 11, but by that point two of my grandparents had died and I was at a high-school reading level, so I was totally prepped for it :XD:

Yeah, I tear up EVERY time, too.
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Kaytara Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Lucky you. It hit me like a brick. Did slam me right into being obsessed with fantasy and RPGs and stuff, though. Even inspired me to switch from drawing horses to drawing humans at one point, just to be able to depict these characters.

...So on that note, why am I the only person here to consistently do BaK fanart? *accusing glare* XD
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DevotedArdanien Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2010
ROFL!
Very nice!
I always enjoy your Gorath and Owyn portrayals!
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Kaytara Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
..."Rolling on floor laughing"??? o_O

Ah well, thank you very much! :D
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DevotedArdanien Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010
..."Rolling on floor laughing"??? o_O

Ah well, thank you very much!

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Was in response to the "Sanity" in moderation:D
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Kaytara Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah. That IS an appropriate response. XD
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